I'm Getting Pre-Buyer's Remorse! Help!

Posted Dec 15, 2008 @ 2:51 pm, Viewed by 660 Visitors, Read 722 Times.

A couple weeks ago I was spending hours excitedly going through Scottsdale, AZ listings sent to me by my agent with a fine AZ mountainstooth comb.  My husband and I would love to be snowbirds in AZ and figured if we wait until we're ready to retire Scottsdale prices will be unattainable for us at that time.  I do have hope for the future of real estate!

We figure if we don't buy something now to get our foot in the door of AZ property ownership with current affordable prices and interest rates, we'll regret it.  We will be visiting AZ at the end of the month (it coincides well with a New Year's Eve gig my husband has with a musician friend that lives in Gilbert) and will be viewing properties then.  We will be pre-approved buyers.

And then I read this post

I'm an avid reader of Bloodhound Blog.  In fact, I was catching up on my reading the other night and the post I'm talking about here, written by Greg Swann, was so long I had to wait another day to read through it.  The post itself is optimistic so read it if you have the time.

The post itself did not bother me as it was actually positive.   It was a couple of the comments that made me nervous about my purchasing decision: 

"Don’t kid yourself, Greg, this downturn is unlike any past downturns that anyone here has lived through; comparisons to recent recessions are flawed. Of course, I’m with you on the eventual recovery, that’s a given, but you seem to be ignoring just how bad the indicators are.

Focusing on the light is a fine way to cope, but take off those rose-colored glasses. Denial is never “simply better” than the truth." - written by Robert Kerr 

and 

"This post is nice, but I think wrong. Inflation hasn’t kicked in yet because companies have, until very recently, kept producing goods at a faster pace than inflation. But the slow down in the last 2 months is kicking in with a vengeance, and that will mean less goods for everyone, with an inflated currency. Also, China will not save us, insofar as China also is facing an economic downturn. 

We are not going to experience horse-and-buggy style soup lines. But it is going to be brutal, especially for places like Phoenix, Southern California, Las Vegas, and so forth.

Places where I live, the South, are going to merely experience a severe, prolonged recession.

Places like Michigan are going to become like Appalachia, where coal once powered the economy, and now welfare checks merely keep people mostly upright and ambulatory." - written by Joe Strummer

These commenters made additional comments following the quotes above.  I have read other negative posts and comments regarding other's opinions on what the real future is that lies ahead.  Bob Wilson of San Diego has made many negative comments trying to enlighten us as to just how bad this recession will truly be.

I'm normally a positive person

The glass is usually half full for me and things always seem to work out.  But reading these comments and remembering others makes me wonder if we're being foolish to purchase a 2nd "home" (actually a condo) at this time. 

2007 was a record year for me, but 2008 was no where near.  Although I can't imagine 2009 being any worse and I have optimistic plans to make sure it's better than 2008 was, am I being naive?

Why am I picking out 2 comments to a positive post to dwell on?  We did not decide to make this purchase on a whim.  We are pre-approved using 2008 earnings figures for myself, which were much lower than 2007.  We are definitely not using our last penny to do this.

We live below our means

My car will be paid off soon and I have no immediate plans on purchasing another one.  At some point we'll have to, but I'm thinking I can get another 2-3 years out of it.  I'm hoping things will get better by then.

We could have afforded twice the price of our current home five years ago, but we loved this one and if we had bought something double this price we might not be in the position to buy a 2nd property.  I'm looking at this purchase as a forced savings plan.  But for the first time since we discussed this, my husband asked me, "Are you sure we should do this?"

I don't want to have to look back and kick myself

SedonaI don't want to regret not taking the chance when the time was right.  But is this the right time?  Should we wait a little longer as so many feel prices, especially in this area, will continue to fall? 

My fear is if prices continue to fall, interest rates might go up.  I'd rather pay a little more now and pay a good rate.  I don't want to gamble that prices will be that much lower next year.  What if that doesn't happen?  We might be faced with the same prices and higher rates or both.

This will be a long-term investment.  Unless something comes up that we hate the complex or something, we will hold onto this property for at least 10 years.  When we're ready to actually use it more often as snowbirds, we might sell it then to get something else.  If we are still happy with it we'll just keep it.

I'm acting like so many other buyers

This is a second home purchase, not a primary one.  I think that's the difference.  This is a pure luxury for us.  Yes, it's a future long-term investment, but this is a place we'll only visit sporadically and although we're going to attempt to get some short-term rentals, we're not depending on that.

I don't want to regret not buying when prices and interest rates seem good, but I also don't want to regret making this purchase down the road.  I know there's no guarantee of anything and none of us really knows how this recession is going to pan out.

I'd love to hear other opinions, although I feel we will move forward with our purchase.  Just a bit of the heebie jeebies after reading negative stuff - I hope!

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12 Responses to “I'm Getting Pre-Buyer's Remorse! Help!”

Judy, I always think it is best for people to make a decision based on their current situation and long term goals.  If we could predict with any sort of accuracy the ups and downs of the market we could become rich beyond our wildest imaginations.  We can only look at trends.  I've heard multiple housing economists state that you can only see the bottom of the housing market six months after it has passed.  Might housing prices go down more, sure, and at least in my area it is fairly likely we will still see some downward movement.  Do the majority of my buyer clients really care?  Not really.  I have some clients who were completely priced out of this crazy California market a couple of years ago and they have had the opportunity to BUY when it was completely out of their reach before.  If they waited until the market turned they may have been priced out again. 

Buying a house is a very personal decision, even if it is a second home.  Maybe you haven't seen the right house yet either.  I notice when people walk into the right place, a lot of their doubts go away as they see themselves finding HOME.

Posted 11 months ago

Carolyn, I know we have to make the final decision.  I think part of my fear is owning a property so far away - I've never understood how people can do this (I've owned investment properties locally before).

I think the fact that we only have a short period of time to search bothers me too.  If we don't find anything during our visit we'll definitely wait.  We're not going to buy just to buy.  I'll go back out if I have to.

I'm not so worried about prices going down once we buy since it is a long-term investment.  In fact, I'm more worried about interest rates going up down the road and that's why I think now is a good time (for a long-term investment). 

My fear is some people's opinion that we're headed for another Depression.  If that's true then I might earn even less next year and after and my husband's job, which seems stable now, might be affected depending on how bad things get.  Right now we're fine.  

I'm just afraid of some people's opinions on our current ecomomic situation and I got scared.  Again, worrying about lower prices is not the issue for us, it's not knowing how bad this is going to get.  

Posted 11 months ago

I'm in a very different real estate market than you, I realize that.  I also know you have been selling real estate for a lot longer than me and have seen a number of real estate cycles so you have a better idea of what a downward cycle feels like.  Best way to stay positive to me would be to focus on your websites -- there will always be people who need to buy or sell.  Re-look at lead conversion methods, even if the number of leads go down work on increasing your conversion and increase your sales. 

Most of the time I'm pretty good at avoiding what-if's.  I live in California and have a pretty hefty mortgage payment. Looking back though this last move has been the best possible thing my family and I could have done and have NO REGRETS buying my current home in 2006. 

Focus on ways you KNOW will help your business (I know you already do this) and help your husband have a backup plan just in case.  Remember that there are always opportunities.  There were people who made a lot of money during the Great Depression.

 

 

Posted 11 months ago

When I got my real estate license in the early 80's interest rates went to 18%.  That was my intro - although I didn't jump in full-time for a few years. 

My first thought is like that of Greg Swann, the author of the post.  Yes, I've been through recessions and everything always worked out. 

But back then, and it's probably because we didn't use computers or the Internet yet, we didn't hear all of the differing opinions on each recession.  I can't imagine things getting as bad as a Depression but why do some intelligent people believe this is coming?

Although I'm not a gambler, I'm also not going to let this stop our plans, but it is weighing on my mind.  I keep thinking, "What if they're right?"  Well, we can only wait and see.  I'm gonna have to live my life right now.

As always, thanks for your kind words.  You're truly a great lady!

Posted 11 months ago

Judy..You post answers most all of your questions and concerns.

I have been doing Naples, Florida real estate for a number of years now and we are seeing buyers question whether we are truly at the bottom and whether the interest rates are going to go lower. As to the question of predicting the bottom, I always nicely say that if I could predict the bottom, I would be on my 150' yacht in Port Royal not having this conversation. I tell them that they have to be looking at it as a long term investment and not a short term hold. Whether the price goes down a bit more, who really cares because we live in a world-class destination and eventually the prices will rise again.

Regarding the mortgage rates, I tell tham that I'm from the Boston area and in the 80's, like you, we saw 18% to 20%, so no matter whether it is 6%, 7% or 8%, it's all pretty good to me.

I say...stay the course, go for it and don't look back!

Posted 11 months ago

Sorry YOUR post.

Posted 11 months ago

No need to say Sorry Mel.  Thanks for commentting and yes, I realize I answered my own questions.  This was a "reach out and vent" post.   That said, again, I'm not worried about price as it is a long-term investment.  My worry is how bad is this recession gonna get? 

Posted 11 months ago

Naples isn't recession-proof necessarily, but I have to believe that we are going to have an O.K. season!

Posted 11 months ago

Ah Judy - we are struggling with the same thing!  We bought a lot in the Tenn. "Smokey Mountains" area and our plans to build our modest vacation home have taken longer than we had hoped.  We made the commitment to start something in May 2009 and ya know what - we will most likely go ahead with it.  WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER.  We can afford it and we have worked so hard for so long - we deserve it.  Good luck with your decision.  I think you deserve it too.

Posted 11 months ago

Hi Judy:

I think it was Warren Buffet who said something like "look at the worse consequences that can come from your decision.  If you can live with it, go ahead with the decision." 

About 5 years ago, we bought our vacation home about 25 minutes north of Québec City.  (I live in South Florida).  At that time the US dollar was very strong.  Had I waited, I would have missed out on an opportunity that may not come back around for awhile. 

Carolyn correctly wrote it above - look at your current situation. 


 


 

Posted 11 months ago

Oh, yes, the posters on some of the blogs who apprently struggle with life, so they want to try to make you feel as miserable as they are. Optimism is not in their vocabulary. They cannot even enlighten themselves.  You reap what you sow.

Judy, we bought a beach home (second home) at the top of the market because it was exactly the location and style of home we wanted.  We plan to have it stay in our family for years to come.  The beach will be there no matter what the market does (assuming our area does no fall into the ocean as many doom-sayers have predicted for years!).

Do what you are comfortable doing. I am a believer in your statement, "I'm gonna have to live my life right now".  Hope you enjoy your new home as much as we enjoy ours!

Posted 11 months ago

I knew you guys could help me feel better!

Bob - Looks like we'll both be taking the plunge!  Best of luck on your new place - I'm sure you'll post some photos.

John - I was thinking of the statement about "buying when everyone else is too afraid."  Was that Buffet?  Now I can't remember.  And I certainly don't want to miss out on today's opportunity!

Drew - As I was searching for the above quote (looking for Warren Buffett quotes) - I found this one that I guess could have pertained to me after reading those negative comments:

"“Let blockheads read what blockheads wrote.”" 

Posted 11 months ago
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