What SE PPC are giving the best conversions?

[cgo85]

What SE's, other than Adwords and Overture, are giving the best conversion rates (conversion = form fill out)? Has anyone tried Enhance, GoClick, Kanoodle, etc... ?

[webmaster]

IMO there is only Google and Overture for decent results and I have found success (And failure) from both. Adwords is really my choice because of the hybrid of CTR and PPC, that way you can optimize for position and reduct your click cost, overture does not have this option.

[timleffler]

II have been reading tons of posts about SERPS, SEO and various traffic generation techniques. It seems to me everyone has their bag of tricks. We are working toward an SEO plan for our site. We are focused right now on sales, speaking engagements, user support and SALES.

I want to know 2 things.

1 If you have an SEO plan in place and your site is coded properly, does the site still require maintenance?

2 What is the best way to build affiliations and solicit resellers?

One more thing, from what I have read you guys have done a great job providing this resource to agents and the general public.

I can only assume it is alright to refer folks here?

Thanks

[webmaster]

Of course you can refer members here, keep in mind this is a real estate specific forum so we are really only interested in those with at least a loose connection to real estate, for more generic SEO advice try www.seo-guy.com/forum/ ther is no theme there.

I own them both so you get a lof of the same posters, its just this one I kind of want to keep real estate only.

Now your questions:

Yes your site always requires maintantence as your competition invariably will always be trying to take your place and because search engine algorithms change all the time.

The question about affiliations and resellers really depends on what market your services, one thing I can tell you for sure, is never try to solicite affiliates on forums, it will get you in trouble with the admin

[chachi]

I agree with Webby, there is really only Adwords and Overture. I have tried others in addition to OV and AW, such as search123.com and findwhat.com. They just don't have the syndication partners and the traffic that the "Big 2" can offer you. You may find a 10% CTR on one of the small ones, but one click through a month will most likely not mean much to you.

Hmmm. You know what, normally I would believe what I said, but if you are a real estate agent/broker and you can snag a sale from someone who gets to you via a small PPC site, then you will most likely make it worth your while as the payoff is much bigger than with a traditional retail product. I would not be as concerned with CTR (click through ratio) as I am about how much you are paying per click. The CTR is going to depend on how targeted your keywords are and how well you write your ad copy.

[webmaster]

Where is webby? What did he say? I didnt see webby anywhere

[MrJodyHudson]

Here is an article from last month in an Indian paper...
Supposedly there is an industry in India where people are paid to click on AdWords...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...%2ccurpg-1.cms
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Below is the article in case it does not stay on the Indian servers.
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India's secret army of online ad 'clickers'
N VIDYASAGAR

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, MAY 03, 2004 08:20:34 AM ]


NEW DELHI: With her baby on her lap, Maya Sharma (name changed) gets down to work every evening from her eighth-floor flat at Vasant Vihar. Maya's job is to click on online advertisements. She doesn't care about the ads, but diligently keeps count — it's $0.18 to $0.25 per click.

A growing number of housewives, college graduates, and even working professionals across metropolitan cities are rushing to click paid Internet ads to make $100 to $200 (up to Rs 9,000) per month.

"It's boring, but it is extra money for a couple of hours of clicking weblinks every day," says a resident of Delhi's Patparganj, who has kept a $300-target for the summer.

Traffic to click overseas Internet ads — from home loans to insurance — is spreading fast in India. "I have no interest in what appears when clicking an ad. I care only whether to pause 60 seconds or 90 seconds, as money is credited if you stay online for a fixed time," says another user.

Here's how it works: online advertisers in developed markets agree to pay hosting website each time an ad is clicked. With performance-based deals becoming dominant on the Internet, intermediaries have sprung up to "do the needful”.' Why, type in 'earn rupees clicking ads' in Google — you get 25,000 results.

"I'm not surprised. As competition intensifies, people are using every trick to increase their revenues," says Sam Balsara, CMD, Madison.

The trend is catching up in India. Says Goutam Rakshit, chairman, Advertising Council of India: "It's a numbers game as far as media buying is concerned. And anybody who can manipulate numbers gets the edge. This is unethical, and needs to be curbed."

Take www.Click2freemoney.com. Calling itself an Internet advertising company that shares profits with members, it gives three options to earn money — by clicking on website links via e-mails that they send, by clicking on banners and text ads in their paid-to-click section, and by referring others to the website.

No wonder Internet ad firms have been floated in neighbourhood colonies, promising to share "secrets" to earning in dollars by clicking online ads for an upfront fee of Rs 250 to Rs 1,500.

Typically, online ad clickers get their money remitted by opening accounts through PayPal or StormPay — which enables money transaction if you have an e-mail address.

Most clickers, however, opt to pay commission to middle men and encash earnings in rupees. Clickers say they pay $7 commission for every $50 earned.

Clicks are bought to boost number of hits for web ads or online advertisers who are not tracking user location. Rakshit says new tech solutions are being developed to bring in some sort of accountability. "It is going to be a cat-and-mouse game," he says.

Industry, as a whole, is confident that this is an interim trend that will fizzle out in the long run. But for the moment, there are countless Maya Sharmas clicking away.

[2savvy]

That's too Funny Jody. Here I am worried about scripts that can show false hits on adwords and there are real people in this world that would sit infront of a computer and click links. Puts a new spin on the term pay-per-click lol