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Old 02-15-2005, 08:31 AM
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First let me thank all of you for a great resource. I'm working on a website for a friend of mine and I'm just getting into SEO. I have read the basics and started working on off page SEO as well as On page SEO. I have seen the amount of IBL's increase on MSN on almost a daily basis. I also see the spiders hitting in my logs now.

I would like your opinions on:

The general look and feel of the website.
On Page SEO

Also, I (regretably) used Front Page to build it. The code generated isn't as clean as I had hoped so I'm thinking about redoing it in Dreamweaver.

If you look at the source code, you can see that I'm using include pages (this makes changes to navigation, header, and footer much easier). The problem is that I'm doing my on page optimization on the include pages and not on the actual index page. I think this is causing my keyword density and relavence to be pretty low. Is the structure I'm using spider friendly? How can I see what is being spidered on the page?

Also, any other feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 02-15-2005, 09:30 AM
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How can I see what is being spidered on the page?

Thanks!
http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/tool...ine-viewer.htm
But if you want to see if Google cached type
cache:www.yoursite.com
in a Google search.

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Run your page through this tool for some help as well.
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/
And here is post with just about every SEO and webmaster tools.
http://www.realestatewebmasters.com/thread1397.html

Oh yeah, I think your website looks nice and clean. Good work. Work on the size (over 100,000 k) Size: 106278 bytes Download Time 56K 21.18 seconds
and maybe this tutorial will help as well
http://www.seo-guy.com/tutorial.html

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Thanks for the quick response. I can reduce the size of the pictures without a problem. I'm debating on where I should be spending my time right now. Should I optimize my HTML and get rid of the errors that are there? How important is clean HTML to the SE's? Or should I focus my energy on creating IBL's in free directories. I know it takes a while for google SERP's to pop up so I would like to look good to MSN and Yahoo, then build IBL's to google for more long term.

Those are some very useful tools, thanks. One thing I found interesting was at:
http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/php/....vp-realty.com

It states that I have 375 keywords/phrases. Why is this? And of those results, which are the ones that you feel are most important to fix immediately?
Thanks Again
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Should I optimize my HTML and get rid of the errors that are there?
Clean code makes spiders job easier to read.
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How important is clean HTML to the SE's?
I make sure all my HTML validates. http://validator.w3.org/
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Or should I focus my energy on creating IBL's in free directories.
Link anywhere you can with your Keywords as Anchor text.
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I know it takes a while for google SERP's to pop up so I would like to look good to MSN and Yahoo, then build IBL's to google for more long term.
I believe backlinks help for all search engines.
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It states that I have 375 keywords/phrases. Why is this? And of those results, which are the ones that you feel are most important to fix immediately?
Its pointing out that your "Keywords used in your META tags" is way to much. "To maximize the potency of each page for its targeted keyword search phrases plan on optimizing for a "maximum" of 3 keyword terms. Also group "like terms" so that you may increase your keyword density with much less effort." from SEO guy's tutorial. (psst. by the way that is who runs this forum )
http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tutorial/...ly-design.html
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Also group "like terms" so that you may increase your keyword density with much less effort." from SEO guy's tutorial. (psst. by the way that is who runs this forum )
http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tutorial...dly-design.html
After all that, and you don't even use anchor text for the link. my my my. what will we do with you kyle. lol.
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After all that, and you don't even use anchor text for the link. my my my. what will we do with you kyle. lol.
Was feeling a bit lazy.
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I'm curious how much weight valid html gets. When I pull up a competitor in html validator (www.dreamtown.com) for one of my key phrases, they have 50 errors. With that said I have read enough to know there are many factors that go into SERPS and my goal will be to clean up my code.

Kyle, one thing about the 375 keywords, I don't have that many. I think it is taking the body of my include page and using that for some reason. These include pages seem to becoming more of a headache for on page SEO.

I have my main page, index.htm. that page then has 4 includes, header.htm, navigation.htm, inedex-content.htm, and footer.htm. Is this a bad structure for optimizing?

Am I throwing off the spiders?
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I'm curious how much weight valid html gets. When I pull up a competitor in html validator (www.dreamtown.com) for one of my key phrases, they have 50 errors. With that said I have read enough to know there are many factors that go into SERPS and my goal will be to clean up my code.
Would it hurt to have good code? Most likey not. Would you possibly benefit from good code? Isn't worth the effort. Here is any easy way to make your code clean: HTML TIDY Free program.

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Kyle, one thing about the 375 keywords, I don't have that many.
It's characters not words. So it takes into account each letter and space.
<head>
<title>A maximum of 3 keyword phrases and 55 characters</title>
<meta name="description" content="Many SE's use this to describe your site so make sure you not only repeat each of your keyword phrases (max 3) at least once but make this a true representation of the page that the visitor will be viewing, and try to keep it under 255 chars">
<meta name="keywords" content="Only permutations of your keyword phrases should be placed here"> (Google all but ignores this tag DONT STUFF IT!)
From SEO Guys Ethical Search Engine Optimization

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I have my main page, index.htm. that page then has 4 includes, header.htm, navigation.htm, inedex-content.htm, and footer.htm. Is this a bad structure for optimizing?
Am I throwing off the spiders?
You know, I use Dreamweaver and am not familar with the way you have your page set up. But from what that spider tool you used on your site shows it seems alright http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/php/....vp-realty.com

I would find a way to hide your email address from evil spam bots. http://www.wbwip.com/wbw/emailencoder.html
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:16 AM
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Again Kyle, great reply!

Thanks for your help. I took your advice and have been reducing images/image size and using the tools you recommend I can see my changes are working!

It's funny what you said about hiding email because I'm getting tons of spam now to the address on my site.
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