I've been reading online about framing and how to effectively use it in a website, and picked up that using an iframe is the "old" method of framing a site.

If this is true, does anyone know what the "new" method is? Does it involve using AJAX, or something like CSS and Divs?

(as you can see, I'm completely clueless here. )

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I have nothing to contribute to this thread. I'd like to know as well though ... so I'm here to throw in my "me too".

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Steve;

Got a reference for iframing being the "old". Glad to help you look. Been needing that answer myself...

Best;

Eric

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I put "html new way to frame" into google.. and the first result was "Scientist Finds a New Way to the Center of the Earth". I love the internet.

But searching online... I can't find anything to mention a newer way to frame...

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I am learning more html and other techniques every day. From what I see in recent sites I have examined, the use of DIVs is replacing the old framing technique where a master frame page held and referenced two or more other html pages, one being a nav structure, another 1-2 being site standard header and footer stuff, and one being the main content container. Being pretty lazy, and SEO-ignorant, I built and ran a FrontPage site like that many years ago, and it worked very well for what it was. However, without modern CMS's (Content Management Systems), such as what REW uses, DIV coding for very large sites, with the same DIVs replicated on every page of the site, would be very tedious and error prone to code and maintain, especially if a re-arrangement of the framing structure was ever needed. So, the advent of CMS products has made use of what would have been tediously repetitive DIV coding practical, since the CMS generates it based on a template, and the programmer no longer has to do it all by hand.

As to IFrame, a totally different framing method, I disagree that it is "old". It is a technique that meets a specific need: a way to conveniently include content FROM AN EXTERNAL SITE, within a DIV-coded page/site structure, or even in the old style framing structure. I, the main site owner, have no control over how the external site is coded, or what languages/server/database infrastructure it uses, and I really don't care. So unless and until every real estate agent also becomes an IDX programmer, and/or every website vendor can incorporate every IDX in the country in their sites, I think IFrame will be around for a long time, especially in our industry.

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That was my real main purpose for this thread. I'm currently trying to figure out a solution on how to frame a site and have the height dynamically adjust based on the external framed content.

I can currently do it if the content is hosted locally, but after searching the web, this is a common complaint about the iframe feature set that really hasn't (can't?) be address.

Since I'll be putting up my Wolfnet IDX soon, I'm stuck with either a) framing the page content and hoping users don't mind double scroll bars or b) have the page open on a new window without browser navigation, so that my site stays in the background and they have to come back to it to move to another page.

I'm going back and forth on what to do; both look decent.

Ah; the turmoils of not having a custom IDX.

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Well, you only need one scroll bar, one inside the iframe.

Your site should hopefully not be that long for that page

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Optimizing for 1024x768? My site is naturally longer on a standard size screen so I will automatically have a scroll bar for the site. That's why I'm saying I'll have to have to scrolls bars, which IMO, isn't pretty at all.

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I'd recommend to have that one page shorter, to avoid this problem them. Two bars totally mess with scroll wheels.

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I agree. The problem is that by default, Wolfnet's IDX results in 10 properties found. That's a pretty long page!

It sucks cause if I scroll all the way down, click a link down there, it does not come back up to the top.

No clue how to fix it either.

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