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Old 03-19-2005, 07:57 PM
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Default #1 Google Search Engine Return Page Auction ???

OK...I am new here and I like what I see in this forum. I have a question for everyone that may or may not be met with some discussion. I have tried to find a way of asking this without sounding like I am spamming so I will leave it up to the readers and moderators.

My question is: Would a real estate agency that is not ranking well on google be willing to bid on a page that has a number one return position on google for their particular area and market?

Example: If you go to google and type in the following searches "Luxury Homes For Sale Italy" "Luxury Homes For Sale France" "Luxury Homes For Sale Brazil" and about 15 others.... my site comes in at number one. I even have a couple pages that rank at number one with no listings at this time.

If your agency is buried deep in google, would you be willing to bid on exclusive rights to list on that page on a month to month basis? And do you think this is an ethical offer.

I have worked very hard over the past 5 years to get to this point on the web. It has not been an easy process and has required almost daily manipulation of the site overall to get here and to maintain this position...even through all the recent google changes.

So, what is your opinion? If I get a favorable response I may look at holding an auction with a third party auctioneer to keep it on the up and up.

If a negative response overall then I will take it as a bad idea....

I look forward to hearing from you all........eric
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Old 03-19-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: #1 Google Search Engine Return Page Auction ???

If you're talking about selling advertising space on your pages that is pretty common.

Out of curiosity... I just ran the search numbers for "Luxury Homes For Sale Italy" and it came back pretty low. What kind of traffic could someone who advertises on your page expect on a monthly basis?
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Old 03-19-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: #1 Google Search Engine Return Page Auction ???

On average about 300 to 350 unique visitors a month pop in at the Italy page. A more common search term of just "Homes For Sale Italy" brings us in at number two on google... and of course that is a specific search term for that country. In France I have actually broken it down to the city level for luxury homes for sale...... and have seen top spot so that means less traffice but more targeted.

I am not really talking about selling ad space so much as offering exclusive rights to list property on that page. For instance Luxury Homes For Sale Cannes... I would only list properties from one agency and while that one agency is active I would not accept listings from any competitors.....

Am also considering offering full profile pages for agencies that would allow them to have a presence on our site in the form of a full agency profile page with all the info about the agency and then link to their exclusive listings and to their website as well.

Just a thought.............
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Selling space doesn't sound like a bad idea on the whole. I don't how much a page would fetch with only 350 uniques per month however.
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I don't get it. How would we benefit from that page and its google rank for our particular area and market if the queries and search results are based on luxury homes in Italy, France, etc.? Whad I miss.
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It would only really apply to an agency within that target market and country. For instance "Homes For Sale Brazil" gives a number one return on google. Only agencies in Brazil would be interested. If somehow I managed to get a number one return for "Homes For Sale Las Vegas" then it might be of interest to your agency...... Each page would be only for that target market......... hope this explains a little more.... eric
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Eric,
I think it is an idea that has a lot of potential, however the keywords you seem to have been targeting dont really seem that they are either to competitive or have much traffic. Now that you have tackled some smaller terms, why not go for "homes for sale las vegas" or "homes for sale new york" something that is really going to be worth it for the purchaser.

As for pricing, what I would do is an adsense campaign (Tracked by page of course) so that I can see how much revenue that campaign is generating on a specific page. If your adsense on your italy page makes you $50 per month, then charge an agency $100 and so forth.

There are million dollar spots out there on the web, so if you hit the right market and get the traffic people will pay for it.
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I wouldn't pay to advertise on a site with only 350 visitors per month. I had over 1000 yesterday, and and average 7-800 per/day. And haven't found advertisors, except the fastclick stuff, but that advertises smilies, and has a low payout. Try google adsense to start with. its easy, its pay per click, you dont have to search for advertisors, and it pays decent. If you really want to monetize your site you will have to get more visitors!

1. start with adsense
2. make a little money
3. use that money for promoting your site and getting more visitors
4. repeat steps

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Default Re: #1 Google Search Engine Return Page Auction ???

WOW!
What a great problem and idea you have. Why not try it out and see what happens? I would be willing to give it chance and would love to be the first in line to bid on a content related page. I just emailed your staff to trade links with and love your web site. One of my goals is to get educated and involved with the International Real Estate Markets. Do you think our Colorado Land Development would go well with your ideas Eric?




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OK...I am new here and I like what I see in this forum. I have a question for everyone that may or may not be met with some discussion. I have tried to find a way of asking this without sounding like I am spamming so I will leave it up to the readers and moderators.

My question is: Would a real estate agency that is not ranking well on google be willing to bid on a page that has a number one return position on google for their particular area and market?

Example: If you go to google and type in the following searches "Luxury Homes For Sale Italy" "Luxury Homes For Sale France" "Luxury Homes For Sale Brazil" and about 15 others.... my site comes in at number one. I even have a couple pages that rank at number one with no listings at this time.

If your agency is buried deep in google, would you be willing to bid on exclusive rights to list on that page on a month to month basis? And do you think this is an ethical offer.

I have worked very hard over the past 5 years to get to this point on the web. It has not been an easy process and has required almost daily manipulation of the site overall to get here and to maintain this position...even through all the recent google changes.

So, what is your opinion? If I get a favorable response I may look at holding an auction with a third party auctioneer to keep it on the up and up.

If a negative response overall then I will take it as a bad idea....

I look forward to hearing from you all........eric
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