Real Estate Forums

Mortgage Information Mortgage information is often part and parcel with Real Estate Information Questions about mortgages, financing etc this is the forum for all mortgage related discussion.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-13-2009, 04:05 PM
SELLITNOW's Avatar
SELLITNOW SELLITNOW is offline
Real Estate Web Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 279
SELLITNOW is on a distinguished road
Default stretching the truth . . .?

Stop the presses . . . I am not talking about "no doc" and "liar" loans. . .

I have occasion to speak with other agents and loan officers . . . and it amazes me how we brag about the deals we got our clients . . .

But how much stretching is permitted before we are simply "blowing smoke" . . . ?

I have agents trying to convince me that they are getting deals done with clients who have scores lower than . . . what ever is the stated minimum . .

when the magic number was 600 . . . . they say . . I just got a 580 through . . . when the magic number is . . . 620 . . they say . . I just got 2 600's approved . .
and so on
and so on

. . . Where are these elusive magical miracle workers . . .?
__________________
--Richmond VA and the entire surrounding metropolitan area: Chesterfield County - Henrico County - Amelia County - Dinwiddie - Prince George - Charles City County and the cities of Petersburg - Colonial Heights - Hopewell -
. . . Ask Me How to Get a Free Gas Card Now!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2009, 07:12 PM
Toby Lane's Avatar
Toby Lane Toby Lane is offline
Real Estate WebMaster
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 249
Toby Lane is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

We still have the ability to do loans with scores down to 580, but to be honest that is not the type of loans where I would want to spend all of my time. They are labor intensive given the strict guidelines and you can only get maybe 1 out of 5 approved. You have a much better chance of getting a loan through with a 620 score. I work with the client to get their score up, by legitimate means such as having them pay down high balance credit cards, etc., etc. Sometimes it only takes a few hundred dollars to bring your credit score up 20 or 30 points. I have seen it happen case after case.
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2009, 09:58 PM
SELLITNOW's Avatar
SELLITNOW SELLITNOW is offline
Real Estate Web Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 279
SELLITNOW is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

Indeed. It's just something that is nagging at me during my "downtime" . . . I have 3 clients on hold . . . waiting for a reply on foreclosure properties . . . and one of my other clients just got declined on qualification/approval b/c of the score being under 600 . . . Guess I was just being too greedy . . . hoping I could get this person approved too . . . I would stand to get another transaction lined up sooner than later . . . but loan officer said there was nothing but TIME that would get the score up . . . SHUX!
__________________
--Richmond VA and the entire surrounding metropolitan area: Chesterfield County - Henrico County - Amelia County - Dinwiddie - Prince George - Charles City County and the cities of Petersburg - Colonial Heights - Hopewell -
. . . Ask Me How to Get a Free Gas Card Now!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 08:37 PM
Toby Lane's Avatar
Toby Lane Toby Lane is offline
Real Estate WebMaster
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 249
Toby Lane is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

That's the worst when there is nothing but time that increases your score. You never know how long to wait and there is nothing you can do. I have had several like that lately.
Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 08:49 PM
jamesww's Avatar
jamesww jamesww is offline
Uber Real Estate Webmaster
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 713
jamesww is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SELLITNOW View Post
Stop the presses . . . I am not talking about "no doc" and "liar" loans. . .

I have occasion to speak with other agents and loan officers . . . and it amazes me how we brag about the deals we got our clients . . .

But how much stretching is permitted before we are simply "blowing smoke" . . . ?

I have agents trying to convince me that they are getting deals done with clients who have scores lower than . . . what ever is the stated minimum . .

when the magic number was 600 . . . . they say . . I just got a 580 through . . . when the magic number is . . . 620 . . they say . . I just got 2 600's approved . .
and so on
and so on

. . . Where are these elusive magical miracle workers . . .?
If there is anyone in your market place still doing manual underwritting of FHA loans you can still get someone with a sub 600 score done. I have heard of a few mortgage banks that are still doing them. Trouble is the ones I have heard discussed do not lend here in Texas.
Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 10:55 PM
SELLITNOW's Avatar
SELLITNOW SELLITNOW is offline
Real Estate Web Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 279
SELLITNOW is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

In general, I would say yes there are. However, it must be getting more restrictive because now when I ask loan officers about it, more and more officers are either saying "that can be done" or we can do that for some applicants, but not "this" one" . . .
__________________
--Richmond VA and the entire surrounding metropolitan area: Chesterfield County - Henrico County - Amelia County - Dinwiddie - Prince George - Charles City County and the cities of Petersburg - Colonial Heights - Hopewell -
. . . Ask Me How to Get a Free Gas Card Now!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 12:09 PM
AnnAnderson1015's Avatar
AnnAnderson1015 AnnAnderson1015 is offline
Real Estate Web Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 426
AnnAnderson1015 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

I am not sure about your area, but I have use Wells Fargo in the past for FHA. Make sure to work with someone that have been doing it for years and can handle all of the issues.
Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2009, 02:11 PM
mmpcreditrestoration.com mmpcreditrestoration.com is offline
banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5
mmpcreditrestoration.com is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

For the 580s that you cannot get approved, we have attorneys who can fix their Credit Score and refer the client back to you for approval. This can get done as quick as 60 days. Let me know if you want more info. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 07:08 AM
SELLITNOW's Avatar
SELLITNOW SELLITNOW is offline
Real Estate Web Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 279
SELLITNOW is on a distinguished road
Default Re: stretching the truth . . .?

I certainly want more information . . . though I am always skeptical of those who can "fix" things but I do want to open the door and kick the tires so to speak . . . pm me or post please
__________________
--Richmond VA and the entire surrounding metropolitan area: Chesterfield County - Henrico County - Amelia County - Dinwiddie - Prince George - Charles City County and the cities of Petersburg - Colonial Heights - Hopewell -
. . . Ask Me How to Get a Free Gas Card Now!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Have you tried this approach? rvolk75 Lead Follow Up 13 04-08-2009 02:29 PM
stretching an iframe to fill page vertically eddiewalter Coding 3 01-27-2008 01:52 PM
The Truth alentejo retry Introduce Yourself 8 01-08-2007 03:31 PM
Deindexing - anyone know the truth? judyo Real Estate and Google 37 06-04-2006 07:11 AM
The Truth About Reciprocal Link Networks pcdoc Real Estate Chat 10 12-17-2005 05:54 PM


Real Estate Webmasters on Facebook

For our members

Main Sections

IDX Coverage Areas

You can find us at

Spiders Welcome

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.