Real Estate Forums

Yahoo Discuss the Yahoo search engine, Search Marketing, Directory and other Yahoo related issues here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-21-2004, 05:25 PM
fisher318 fisher318 is offline
Real Estate Trainee
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 35
fisher318 is on a distinguished road
Default Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Hello,

In my opinion, I have put my time in, I have fought the fight, and now I have a #3 placement on Yahoo for "California Mortgage Brokers". Wordtracker says that it averages 30 searches per day. I have not received one visitor through that keyword term yet. Only been there for a couple of days, but I would expect to at least have seen some visitors by now. Does anyone have any insight for this?
__________________
Jeremy Morris
California Mortgage Brokers
Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2004, 08:36 PM
SEO Jason SEO Jason is offline
Über Mod
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Nanaimo, B.C.
Posts: 1,237
SEO Jason is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to SEO Jason
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

I would hang in there, you should start to see some visitors. One thing you might be running into is 30 searches a day is not a lot searches. Actually it's a very small number, one that many people would find too small to target. "Mobile Home Mortgage California" gets more searches a day then your keywords do.

Besides that I don't really notice a problem with your listing or description. I think it just may be that with that few of searches on the keywords per day it could be that for some reason people type that looking for something else, such as california mortgage brokers laws, or there looking for the website of a certain broker. But I think you should start getting some visitors from it, have a little patience, but I also think that you aren't targetting the best keywords. How about just California Mortgage or if you really want to do something that gets searches, and you have time to put in a lot of work, start targetting mortgages, mortgage rates, mortgage, mortgage calculators, mortgage leads, current mortgage rates, etc. they get a lot more searches.
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2004, 01:17 AM
webmaster's Avatar
webmaster webmaster is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 13,202
webmaster will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

You also have to realize a #3 listing in yahoo is really a #6 or #7 listing because you are buried below overture sponsored ads. Also give yourself a 1% clickthrough rate for your postiiton and look at 30 searches (Which is not just yahoo but the entire overture network combined) so say yahoo is 40% of that netword then you have .01*.4*30 that works out to .12 clicks per day, not a great return.

Jason is right if you are going to target msn / yahoo you need higher traffic terms.
I am #1 for
SEO
SEO Company
SEO Services
blah blah blah (Add any seo term you want) in both msn and yahoo and still that traffic is less then 20% of my google traffic with similar rankings, the volume on small margin terms just isnt there
__________________
Webmasters who spend their energies upholding the spirit of the basic principles [Of Google] will provide a much better user experience and subsequently enjoy better ranking than those who spend their time looking for loopholes they can exploit. Google.com
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2004, 08:59 AM
SanDiego's Avatar
SanDiego SanDiego is offline
Uber Real Estate Webmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 902
SanDiego is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Um.. no, sorry Morgan, I looked up 'SEO speedwagon' for your seo band and um... you weren't there...
__________________
Search Homes for Sale in SAN DIEGO and other San Diego Real Estate via the San Diego MLS.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2005, 06:30 AM
ColumbusOnline ColumbusOnline is offline
Advancing Webmaster
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 67
ColumbusOnline is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

One thing to consider also is who is above you. If the websites ranked above you are horrible, no content, and the people won't want to stay, then they will move onto the next website on the search results. So maybe the #1 and #2 have such good content, that they have no reason to go to #3. That just means you have to beat out #1 and #2 to get looked at first. Then hope you have your website set up to capture the lead.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2005, 03:44 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
Advancing Webmaster
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 67
randfish is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Fisher,

I'd work on getting to #1 at Yahoo! & MSN. It shouldn't be too much more of a push from #3. I get more than the number of visitors per day Overture says is possible from a term I'm number 1 for @ Yahoo!, so either the Overture stats are off, or something else is funny.

Best of luck to you.
__________________
Search Engine Optimization Resources from SEOmoz...
A Blog on SEO News & Optimization Tips | Unique SEO Tools | Several Advanced Articles on SEO
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2005, 05:54 PM
kyle422's Avatar
kyle422 kyle422 is offline
Real Estate Webmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,109
kyle422 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Nice tools in your signature Randfish. Glad I checked them out.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2005, 06:22 PM
kensmith's Avatar
kensmith kensmith is offline
Uber Real Estate Webmaster
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,728
kensmith is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Remember out of the 30 searches per day one of them is probably you . 30 is a very small number and out of the 30 some are mortgage brokers checking their rankings so the .12 clicks per day is even off IMO.

Keep working and find more terms as you will never make a living off of the 30 searches a day that your one term pulls. I am page one in Yahoo and MSN for at least 100 search terms and that isn't even enough IMO. Good luck!
__________________
The Suburban House Hunters Team would like to thank REW members for past referrals! We are never to busy to handle your Chicago area referrals.

Always looking for quality unique content for our real estate agent blog, PM me if interested in writing a post.

My vote for "Greatest real estate agent in the world" contest.
Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2005, 08:46 AM
leandro leandro is offline
Real Estate Nu-bee
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 7
leandro is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

Plus: Wordtracker is highly unreliable tool.
Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2005, 12:10 PM
fisher318 fisher318 is offline
Real Estate Trainee
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 35
fisher318 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Top Competitive Word, yet no traffic?

What do you base that statement off of? How can you know it is unreliable? Do you know of any intelligent way other than that to decide on which keywords are the best to target a website's marketing for?
__________________
Jeremy Morris
California Mortgage Brokers
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blog Your Way To Traffic Success. marketraise Blogs 10 01-07-2008 05:07 PM
Importance of Word Order in Title Morristown Real Estate and Google 35 08-09-2007 10:40 AM
Word Spacing brandonre Coding 1 07-15-2007 10:12 PM
Does Traffic Comming To Your Site Make Google Think Better of your site Morristown Real Estate and Google 26 06-20-2007 06:35 AM
MSN Traffic Google Traffic fastrealestate Real Estate and Google 9 02-16-2007 02:15 PM

REW Conference

For our members

Main Sections

IDX Coverage Areas

Spiders Welcome

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.